tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post345329636454042930..comments2023-09-10T10:47:35.670-04:00Comments on Roads? Where We're Going, We Don't Need Roads.: 2009 Horror Movie Postmortem PART 2: FAREWELL TO THE FLESHDanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03050879099756585371noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post-15694213477200627902010-02-12T13:43:14.450-05:002010-02-12T13:43:14.450-05:00Let me split the difference, guys. I think ANTICHR...Let me split the difference, guys. I think ANTICHRIST is a refreshing break from the norm for Von Trier. It's lacking in the arbitrary restrictions that Von Trier has placed on himself in the past. Those gimmicks can be fun and lead to creativity, but they aren't always the best way to tell a story. I think ANTICHRIST benefits from the fact that its less experimental than other Von Trier films.<br /><br />On the other hand, I would argue that its more of an emotional experience than one with a message. Joseph, I've really loved your analysis of the film on my blog and over at Vern's site. You've decoded the film in an interesting, meaningful way. Yet everyone I've talked to has had a different interpretation of the film, often with ideas in direct contrast with each other. If there was a message Von Trier was trying to get across, then I think he failed, because I can't find two people who agree about what the film "means."<br /><br />So I think the best way to look at it is this: is it an effective horror film? I thought it was atmospheric, engrossing, unnerving and ultimately intense. Since I liked it on this level, it's been worth it for me to try to delve into the subtext. But Thomas, if you just didn't find it scary, then that's that. You don't need to criticize the film for lacking a message, you can explain why you didn't think it worked as an emotional experience and leave it at that.<br /><br />Anyways, thanks both of you guys for the discussion here, I enjoyed hearing from both of you.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050879099756585371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post-38071523130877084672010-02-11T17:28:50.638-05:002010-02-11T17:28:50.638-05:00I guess that I had a hard time getting into the mo...I guess that I had a hard time getting into the movie because I didn´t see the point of it. What´s he trying to say? <br />I think that Von Trier is a very calculating filmmaker and his movies has an almost operatic quality in the many emotional hardships that they subject the viewer to (like DANCER IN THE DARK, for example) and I can appreciate that but this time around, I just didn´t get it.<br />And since we´ve all seen the movie I´m not ruining anything when I say that the infamous scene with the fox had me laughing out loud. That was when the movie lost me.<br /><br />Joseph, I reckon you´re right. At least from what I´ve gathered from the press he did for the movie he didn´t seem to be at all interested in conveying any kind of message.<br />ANTICHRIST is a very difficult movie to pinpoint. I´ll definitely give it another chance down the road and I´m not ruling out that I may appreciate it then. Think of the many factors that come in to play when you watch a movie and you decide whether you like it or not: you might´ve had a shitty day at work or whatever the hell might be going on in your life. ANTICHRIST is one of those movies that you have to be in exactly the right kind of mood to enjoy. I think. I´m rambling...Thomashttp://svearikeslag.se/movie/wordpress/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post-72844769720850977532010-02-11T17:05:44.870-05:002010-02-11T17:05:44.870-05:00Actually, Thomas, I thought ANTICHRIST represents ...Actually, Thomas, I thought ANTICHRIST represents a surprisingly refreshing return to earnestness after his long and dull period fucking about with sylistic and narrative postmodernism. <br /><br />Whatever you may think of the story, I think Von Triers is more interested in what he's saying than how he's saying it this time around. Or at least, it's less of the point.Mr. Subtletyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16243495225217139453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post-59552496230401775752010-02-10T23:29:53.080-05:002010-02-10T23:29:53.080-05:00I can think of a million and one valid reasons not...I can think of a million and one valid reasons not to like ANTICHRIST. It just kind of irks me when people outright dismiss it as pretentious instead of actually explaining what they didn't like about it.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050879099756585371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post-49317584485186158862010-02-10T01:00:47.516-05:002010-02-10T01:00:47.516-05:00You´re welcome. Although I wasn´t a big fan of ANT...You´re welcome. Although I wasn´t a big fan of ANTI-CHRIST, I think it´s a relief to hear someone say they like it without trying to over-analyze it. I can understand why you like it but I had a hard time taking it seriously. <br />I think that Von Trier was an interesting filmmaker but he´s fallen into a rut lately and any new Von Trier movie is sadly predictable in the emotional terror it subjects the viewer to. <br />But I think it´ll be interesting to see where he goes from here.Thomashttp://svearikeslag.se/movie/wordpress/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post-29298693168468698052010-02-09T21:13:20.146-05:002010-02-09T21:13:20.146-05:00Thank you, sir, whoever you are...Thank you, sir, whoever you are...Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050879099756585371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3708292649664624419.post-25667138061275056772010-02-09T14:38:57.383-05:002010-02-09T14:38:57.383-05:00Very interesting insights. Looking forward to part...Very interesting insights. Looking forward to part 3.Thomas Lovecrafthttp://svearikeslag.se/movie/wordpress/noreply@blogger.com